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I think durden will be fine. I made tony on your xp pool roughly, and he rocks. u should too. andyour weird stuff may be slightly different, but still good; devotions are the way to go.

I'd like to be fairly involved in the Invictus stuff. Makes some sense with my backstory. Blood oaths are cool.

trying to think who all is invictus... haley, mike, anita, you... a bunch of npc's... not sure who else.

ordo dracul = zack, steven, others.

carthian = the jason club (most of clan nosferatu), tony, zeke

religious cov's = not many.

I am interested to see where others will place themselves. Harness, Jennifer, Temple, and Thael.

Harness and myself and also adam will not be of the vampire covenants... and it seems that we are all almost on seperate paths (harness and I may share) and I know we are all different political groups... but with us being the few mages it seems we may be a faction unto ourselves.. or not... and regretably I heard jenn is unlikely to return this summer.. temple... I have no clue

I am curious as to how the whole mage thing will work. Maybe Durden should make more friends.

I think the mages will add spice, and since there are a bunch of them, they can actually matter.

Hmm, I didn't think the Nossies would go Carthian.

I imagined they would go religious.

it was carthian or invictus. jason was originally for invictus, but then decided carthian. and they do have all those yummy devotions...

Are they going to hold an election for President of The City?

I demand a recount.

all will be done by council. no prince. clambake.

Devotions. Found them in Carthians and Main book. Most seem to be old combo disciplines revised. Of course, none of Durden's are there. Maybe we could just make them. There are of course rules for devotion creation. Eh.

I am watching Ultimate Fighter. Good stuff.

Well with the shift I am really likely to go Carthian. Its got some great bonuses, and its the nicest faction in dealing with mortals. It seems to fit my humanity better than the invictus.

I am still on the fence it looks like Invictus or Carthian